iPhone 4 is coming to Luxembourg in July 2010 – What’s the deal? Which provider will get it, when will they get it and how much will it cost…

Jun 9, 2010   //   by Jens Buch   //   mobile  //  221 Comments

iphone coming to luxembourg - picture from WWDC

Written 09-Jun-2010 02:12
(update 1 09-Jun-2010 12:15)
(update 2 10-Jun-2010 16:45)
(update 3 30-Jun-2010 13:00)
(update 4 15-Jul-2010 15:20)
(update 5 22-Jul-2010 11:55)
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When Steve Jobs announced the iPhone 3G and the iPhone 3GS, he never gave specific details for Luxembourg. When Apple announced the iPhone 4 – it was there and it was clear. iPhone 4 is out in Luxembourg in July 2010. If Apple’s CEO says it himself on stage, then it is fair to say that there is something to it. From past announcements, we have learned that Luxembourg has been kind of the wild wild west. For the iPhone 3G, it was Orange who got it first. Then Luxgsm got it a few months later – and somehow without major announcements, Tango had it as well. When visiting the official apple iPhone page for Luxembourg – there is not any mention of the iPhone 4 (Situation on 9-Jun-2010). This means, all we can do at this stage is to speculate and contact the various operators in Luxembourg to see what they are willing to reveal.

Luxgsm, Orange and Tango will all sell iPhone 4 – it’s confirmed

Luxgsm

I contacted the commercial director of Luxgsm (Mr. Celis) who was only able to confirm to me that they will get the iPhone 4. I was not able to get any further answers to my questions with regards to:

  • Will the iPhone 4 still be sim-unlocked?
  • Will it still be 2 years minimum contract or still available without a contract?
  • Will the release date be in July 2010?
  • How much will it cost?

All I got out of him was: “All I can say is we will get it”.
Since mid-July (after very unclear communication to the public from Luxgsm), you can enter your email address to get informed when the iPhone 4 is available on Luxgsm via their website.

Orange

Mrs. Hoffmann (head of marketing and communication) from Orange Luxembourg confirmed via email that they will also be selling the iPhone 4. No details on dates, prices etc were given. Since mid-July, Orange is allowing people to enter their email address to get notified when the iPhone 4 is available on Orange via their website.

Tango

Mrs. Montagnese (communication manager) from Tango has also confirmed to me in an email (early June) that they will be selling the iPhone 4 at some point in July 2010. A press release on their website on 22nd July 2010 confirms that the iPhone 4 will be available at their retail stores as of 30th July 2010. The pre-order form that was available prior to 22nd July 2010 is no longer available. It is still unknown under which conditions and at what price tango will sell the iPhone 4.

Stay Informed About iPhone 4 in Luxembourg

At present, we have very little facts and many assumptions. So to keep everything nice and clear, keep and eye on the table below that will be updated on an ongoing basis:

Provider Un-Confirmed Confirmed
Luxgsm sim-unlocked
available without contract
tariffs will remain the same
will sell it
accepting availability notifications via their website
Orange sim-unlocked
available without contract
tariffs will remain the same
will sell it
accepting availability notifications via their website
Tango sim-unlocked
available without contract
tariffs will remain the same
will sell it from 30th July 2010 at their retails stores

Tariffs for the iPhone in Luxembourg

Chances that the talk plans remain untouched are pretty high. The prices for the devices is the big question. Will they remain how they are or will they change. Steve Jobs announced prices starting at $199 for the US at the WWDC 10. At present, the talk plans for the iPhone in Luxembourg are as following for each of the providers:

Luxgsm Talk Plan and iPhone Prices

luxgsm-iphone-tariffs

Orange Talk Plan and iPhone Prices

orange-luxembourg-iphone-tariffs

Tango Talk Plan and iPhone Prices

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221 Comments

  • Oglala smile et alex je partage vow opinions! Créer un club/forum use tres bonne idee meme si celui-ci se traite de sujets différents! A propos de Facebook: haha faut vraiment créer un groupe haha ;) . Addicionner moi si vous voulez bien, j ai bien aimé partager ces informations avec vous! Figueiredo Michel ;) . Demain je vous futex plus j ai pas vraiment Le temps je sues en vacances et doc ce limite.
    Bonne continuite!

  • …si quelqu’un vends le sien, je suis prêt à l’acheter à +100€ prix magasin.

  • “Concernant le fameux buzz “Antennagate”, oui c’est vrai que l’on peut, dans certains cas perdre au grand maximum 1 à 2 barres du signal lorsque l’on tient l’iPhone 4 dans la main gauche (il faut déjà exercer une réelle pression sur celui-ci), mais jamais le signal a été perdu.”

    exact..idem pour moi…

  • C’était vraiment une très bonne idée d’avoir crée ce sujet.

    Bravo, il faudrait créer une page fan sur Facebook :D

    Concernant l’iPhone 4, que dire? Je suis agréablement surpris par le retina display, on remarque nettement la différence entre les 3 mégapixels du 3GS et les 5 mégapixels de l’iPhone 4. Le LED-flash est un plus, pour filmer la nuit (d’ailleurs étonemment surpris par la très forte lumière). Concernant Facetime, je n’ai pas encore pu le tester. Le design de l’appareil est magnifique, plus élégant…

    Concernant le fameux buzz “Antennagate”, oui c’est vrai que l’on peut, dans certains cas perdre au grand maximum 1 à 2 barres du signal lorsque l’on tient l’iPhone 4 dans la main gauche (il faut déjà exercer une réelle pression sur celui-ci), mais jamais le signal a été perdu.

    Donc pour l’iPhone 3GS, l’appareil était censé exploser ou bruler, si je me rappelle bien, sur l’iPhone 4 il y a soi-disant le problème réseau. D’ailleurs plus personnes n’en parle xD. Bizarre hein ?

    En tous cas, n’écoutez pas ceux qui ne font que critiquer ce téléphone, essayez le par vous même.

    Une très bonne continuation à vous tous et bonnes vacances :)

  • Creer un club…
    Ou plutot un forum!?
    Nottemment pour des petites annonces d’iphone 4 d’occasion…
    Pour les malchanceux ;-)

  • @Mich…toi aussi bonnes vacances, et MERCI au créateur de ce forum qui nous a ous permis de patienter et de prendre des news reltives à la sortie de notre nouveau jouet….nous devrions fomer un club :) …c’etait très sympa de partager cette attente avec vous tous…
    Amitiés

  • @smile les appels ca marche niquel, j ai constate la meme chose que t as constate aussi, donc ca spit être surement normal, merci beaucoup! Et bones vacances!

  • @ aj

    No, it’s not possible to buy the iPhone 4 in Luxembourg without contract.

  • Hi, I’m from germany and we get only Netlocked IPhones here with a very expensive contract. Is it possible to by one in Luxembourg without contract?

  • @Tom: I ordered a black bumper.

  • Which free case will you guys get?

  • Oui, chez moi c’est revenu à la normal. Hier, ca a mis plus longtemps… bizarre

  • @alex: +/- 10 sec pour moi…mais comme mon iphone 3Gs…je viens de comparer cote a cote cette manip sur les 2 modeles…

  • Heloouu, quand j’active la 3G, ca dure environ 20 -30 secondes jusque le symbole s’affiche en haut.

    Sur mon iPhone 3GS, ca ne durait que 5-6 secondes.

    vous avez aussi remarqué?

  • @mich070: que veux tu dire…appels passent pas ? Ou juste barre d’etat qui indique peu de barres ?
    Moi aussi peu de barres (1 ou 2)…mais

    - les appels passent sans souci
    - j ai pas plus de barre sur mon blackberry ( lui aussi tango)…pareil 1 ou 2 barres…

    Donc si c est ta question …je ne crois pas que ce soit lié au probleme d antenne…

  • Eat-ce que plusieurs d entre vous aveZ Le reseau de Tango? Chaque foist que j ai Le 3G allume moon reseau est tres faible…et Le votre :-/?

  • Hehe Tom I love him too, it’s such a great smartphone…troppp bien ce telephone !:p

  • I love my new iPhone 4, what about you? ;)

  • Bonjour,
    j’ai une question concernant l’abonnement All Inclusive 50 d’Orange. Est-ce que les MMS sont inclus dans cet abonnement? Si non, combien coûte un MMS?
    Merci

  • l’app s’appelle light tout simplement :)

  • j ai un question tres debile, mais cela m interesse un peu^^ : moi par exempl,e j allume que le 3G pour surfer sur internet..^^ lol a cause de la batterie, puisqu elle, ne dure pas longtemps ;) . ah ouais et les problemes avecl antenne ca se remarque meme pas, sauf que en ce moment Tango a des problemes avec leur réseau, lorsque j allume le 3G il y a 2 traits de résaux qui disparaissent…

  • gecko20 tu pourrais me dire le nom de l application? merci :)

  • @ Tom: Non ça ne te coûtera rien quand tu éteins les données à l’étranger dans les paramètres :-)

  • J’ai une question concernant la caméra de l’iPhone:

    Si j’ouvre la caméra, l’iPhone me demande si elle est autorisée d’utiliser les services de localisation. Je pense que c’est pour enregistrer le lieu où j’ai pris la photo.
    Maintenant ma question:
    Si je me trouve au étranger, est-ce que ceci va me coûter quelquechose si j’autorise à la caméra de localiser ma position? Est-ce que l’iPhone a besoin de l’Internet pour ceci?

  • @ alex, pour tester gyroscope, pas d application native, je te conseille “gun range” …app gratuite de shoot…qui utilise et illustre parfaitement les possibilités

  • Oui c’est vrai.

    Autre point en suspens chez moi, le gyroscope, je croyais qu’il y avait application Apple d’office pour tester cela mais apparemment non…

  • Il y a un app très bien pour pouvoir utiliser la lumiere de la camera comme lampe de poche ;)

  • C est une petite merveille…seul truc chiant : ne pas encore pu avoir testé facetime…
    J ai essayé quelques jeux avec gyroscope: très sympa
    Imovie: très sympa pour les montages
    Pas de souci d antenne pour le moment

  • La lumiere de la camera est bien forte^^

  • bonjour à tous,
    après de nombreuses recherches je pense que les gens qui fréquentent ce blog seront les mieux à même de me répondre face à mes errements:
    alors je vous explique, je commence en septembre un stage de 9 mois au lux, je suis actuellement chez orange france engagé encore pour 10 mois/24 avec un iphone 3G et un forfait origami star 2h a 45€. Sachant que je reviens de l’étranger ou j’ai du me taper un téléphone pourri pendant 4 mois, cette fois je voudrais bien pouvoir profiter de mon Iphone (et prendre le 4 en passant XD ). Problème la durée d’engagement de 24 mois au lux, sur les sites des différents opérateurs c’est pas toujours clair (sauf pour orange lux qui mentionne clairement que les forfaits iphone ne sont que sur 24 mois).
    Pour les frontaliers comment vous faites avec vos forfaits ? Possible d’avoir un forfait sur 12 mois avec un Iphone au lux ? Vous avez des idées à me proposer pour ne pas m’engager au lux mais disposer d’un forfait data sur place (jpeux toujours acheter mon iphone 4 chez orange france) ?
    Voila
    ah et sinon pour la petite info j’ai contacté orange il n’y a aucun transfert de dossiers/forfaits/durée d’engagement entre orange france et le lux dommage

  • Tango a une offre ridicule pour les clients existants

    exemple:
    j’ai 13 mois restants avec un abo à 30 EUR

    ils me calculent 390,- EUR pour solder mon abo existant, avec une remise de 23% = 300,- EUR
    et je dois payer 169 EUR pour le nouvel iPhone4 16 GB! avec un nouveau contrat de 24 mois
    =300 + 169 = 469 EUR

    une action similaire chez LuxGSM: 15*13= 195 + 199 (iPhone 4 16GB) = 394 EUR

    chez Orange selon les dires ici: 12*13 = 156 + 199 = 355 EUR

    Tango veut juste acquérir de nouveaux clients pour les faire chi.r après.

    Alors attention à Tango si vous voulez avoir le nouveau iPhone l’année prochaine!!!

  • Ok Thanks, but how do I activate it?

  • @Tom: No it doesn’t cost extra (Orange) in my case.
    But, yes you have to activate it.

  • @ Alex
    Thanks

    @ Chris
    Does Internet Tethering cost extra? and how do I activate it?

  • 1 – Bumper ordered with the application – very easy…thanks apple(follow the link provided by Alex)
    2 – confirmation email received…should receive the free bumper in 4/5 weeks
    3 – so far…no issue with the antenna…
    4 – Anyone had a chance to test the facetime ?

  • 4. I paid 12€ per month remaining at Orange with my 35 Abo iPhone 3G. So 2×12€ upgrade.
    1. In Luxembourg phones aren’t simlocked.
    2. Of course internet tethering is allowed with the iPhone.
    3. The iPhone ist just avalaible with an abo of a carrier in Luxembourg.

  • @mich070,

    No antenna problem here, it works well for me ;)

  • @ Tom, you have to download the officiel app on your iPhone 4.
    Here’s the link :

    http://www.apple.com/lu/iphone/case-program/

  • Jens I will answer your question after I get home!
    But to the others: Do you Remarque and see the antenna problem? I see it all time when I touch it…I don’t know what to think about it…what do you think?

  • I still have one question:

    How am I able to get the free iPhone 4 case?
    Thanks

  • I had an iPhone 3G, with 3 months of ‘All Inclusive 35′contract remaining.
    I went to orange today to get my iPhone 4 and I had to pay 3*17=51 €. 17 € per month remaining on my contract.
    But there were other people sitting there who had to pay 26€ per month remaining, so it depends on wether you have an iPhone 3G/ 3GS, AI35/AI50 and 8GB/16GB

  • ok – so the iphone 4 is out in Luxembourg. Woohoo. I still don’t have mine, as I am in Copenhagen for the next days. My cousin was in the queue in Copenhagen (Telia provider). He entered the queue at 16:00 and got his iphone 4 at 2:00. At least they had DJs playing music there – here is the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sjlxiw6C58&feature=related :)
    He said that Telia only had about 500 iphone 4 for all of Denmark. It seems to be the iPad scenario all over again – they simply sell the things faster than they are able to produce them.

    I am writing an update for this post right now, but I am missing the following information (for all networks):
    1. are the iphones sim locked?
    2. is internet tethering allowed by the network?
    3. are the phones available off contract, and if yes – at what price?
    4. are there ‘upgrade’ prices for current iphone 3G and 3GS customers?

    I could call the helplines, but communication seems to be very inconsistent, so I prefer to run it via you guys, as you have the device.

  • @Bob…

    “Le constructeur Apple a annoncé il y a quelques jours que la sortie du nouvel iPhone 4 en blanc serait reportée à une date indéterminée d’ici à la fin de l’année, la fabrication de l’appareil se révélant finalement plus difficile que prévue.”

  • Moi aussi chez LuxGsm, après 2 heures d’attentes, ils n’étaient que 2 à servir!!

    Mais bon hyper content, l’écran fait vraiment la différence, beaucoup plus nette ;) :)

  • I got mine 32GB from Orange!

  • Salut!
    J’ai téléphoné à LuxGsm, il y a 5 minutes. Ils m’ont dit qu’avec ma réservation je devrais encore attendre 1-2 semaines, mais j’aurais SUREMENT un! Et cela leur facilitera la vente dans leur magasins. Ils m’ont aussi dit qu’ils ont déjà fait une deuxième commande chez Apple parce que le stock est presque vide, mais ceux qui ont réservé l’ont sans doute. Ils m’ont aussi rassuré d’avoir l IPhone 4 en blanc. :)

  • j’en ai eu un chez luxgsm :)

  • Pris le mien ce matin chez Tango (reservation). Bonne chance a tous!

  • Voilà les gars he l ai achete maintenant chez Tango…Super!!he suis hyper content!! Bonne chance a void ce matin..:)))

  • @mich et Sander: le blanc n’est pas produit pour le moment, problème technique (lié justement à la couleur)….et sans doute pas avant plusieurs mois

  • Bonjour. Je comptais prendre un abo Iphone50 chez Tango, mais on me dit que leur reseau 3G est pittoyable par rapport a LuxGSM et Orange. Ca m’etonne vu qu’ils disent partout qu’ils ont la meilleure couverture 3g.. Qu’en est il reelement ? Merci d’avance, Fox

  • @mich070: Certainement chez Tango! Compare bien, c’est plus avantageux chez Tango!!
    @Weezy: Seul chez Tango et Luxgsm la version blanche est montré sur le site, pas chez Orange. Mais je croix qu’il n’y a pas de blancs du tout en ce moment. Dans les Etats Unis non plus est-il en stock. Grosse rupture et du retard…

  • Mais les gars, vous croyez que c mieux de faire un abonnement chez Tango ou chez LuxGsm?

  • ‘soir à tous.

    Et il sera simlock ou pas ce nouvel Iphone ?

  • On verra bien ^^
    Dites, vous pouvez nous tenir au courant si la version blanche sera disponible et dans quel magasin? Juste au cas j’en trouve pas…

  • @ Sander, 100 % d’accord, l’offre de LuxGsm est plus que lamentable, surtout l’abo à 75 € par mois, comparé à ceux des autres opérateurs, mais bon au moins demain à Esch, il n’y aura pas beaucoup de monde :P

  • Alors, pour moi c’est Orange qui a les tarifs les plus intéressants, mais c’est pas la première fois que j’entends parler que leur service et leur comptabilité est un horreur. Donc, ca sera chez Tango, car Luxgsm ne fait rien pour les gens qui appellent vers l’Europe souvent. Qui est d’accord?

  • LuxGsm vient d’annoncer les prix de l’iPhone 4:

    http://iphone.luxgsm.lu/index.php?page=tarifs4&the_lang=FR&type=iphone4

  • A mon avis c’est rentable pour ceux qui ont aquérit un iPhone depuis peu… J’aurais préféré payé 15€ en plus comme cela a était cité plus haut.

  • Salut,

    @Alex: Et l’abo à 50€ par mois chez LuxGsm coutera combien?

  • Ok alors j’ai appelé chez LuxGsm, pas possible d’acheter l’iPhone à nu, mais

    Il faut que vous terminer votre abonnement actuel, en payant par mois 10 €, donc si votre abo se termine en août 2011, il faudra payer 10€ X 12 mois= 120 €.

    Dès lors, votre nouvel iPhone vous coûtera 299 € si vous prenez l’abo 25 € par mois et 199 € si vous prenez l’abo à 35 € par mois.

    C’est quand même rentable non?

  • dommage

  • Apparamment, chez Tango, ils vont le vendre uniquement avec un abonnement.., donc uniquement pour les nouveaux clients…

  • Slt,

    Aujourd’hui, LuxGsm va annoncer les prix de l’iPhone 4.
    S’ils ne publient rien cet après-midi, je vais les appeler.

    Si vous avez plus d’infos sur ce sujet, n’hésitez pas à les partager ;)

  • Surtout ne faites pas la faute d’acheter ce portable chez Orange! Comptabilité nulle, deux fois ils m’ont envoyé des rappelles que j’avais payés le jour même!

    Si vous voulez être tranquille, prenez Luxgsm :)

    Est-ce que qqn sait quand l’iphone sera disponible en blanc?

  • Tango have published their prices tonight, see http://www.tango.lu/iphone/fr/tarifs

  • @dav: le plus rapide est d aller l acheter en france, “nu”

  • merci smile, et j’en suis conscient, c’était prévisible :-)

    néanmoins, cela ne répond pas à ma question :P
    Quand? Ou? Combien?

  • @dav…normal que les operateurs ne veulent pas vendre sans abonnement, surtout au depart, car c est l abonnement qui les intetesse financierement, pas le telephone…

    @alex, forfait tango plus interessants que orange…leur forfait 45 revient à 50 chez orange si je compare bien…

    J-1…

  • @alex: prix orange iphone: sauf que le lien qui conduit aux prix est relatif aux iphones 3get 3gs…

  • J’ai participé au tirage de sort chez Orange et j’ai gagné :D

    J’ai reçu l’E-Mail aujourd’hui à 15 heures! quelqu’un d’autre qui en a reçu un?

  • J’ai parlé avec un vendeur de Tango au sujet de mon invitation/réservation TANGO de vendredi.
    Apperemment, impossible d’acheter le téléphone sans abonnement.

    Quelqu’un a une idée ou il est / sera possible de se le procurer sans contrat?

  • je trouve que l’offre de tango bien intéressant, que je me tâte… j’ai hâte de voir les prix de luxgsm et surtout leur offre de prolongement…

  • Comme une nouvelle ne vient jamais seule^^
    Voici la future newsletter d’Orange, l’iPhone y est proposé à 59 €, si on choisi l’abo à 50 € par mois:

    http://www.orange.lu/content/VOX/NEWSLETTER/image/Newsletter_iPhone_03.html

  • Ca y est, Tango a mis en ligne les prix de l’iPhone 4:

    http://www.tango.lu/iphone/fr/tarifs

  • C’est ce que je me suis aussi dit Xd

  • Espérons que la plupart parte en vacances jusqu’à vendredi et que ceux qui feront la file d’attente repartiront avec l’iPhone 4.

  • Oui j ai deja pense que peu etre a Esch il y aura moins de monde, enfin j espere ;) . Hmmmmm….. merci :)

  • moins de monde à Esch

  • non c’est environ la même taille, je dirai que Luxembourg ville en aura plus, mais qu’il y aura moins de monde ;) c’est un risque à prendre, et comme je suis de schifflange c’est aussi plus près ;)

  • Elle est plus grande cette teleboutique que celle de la gare?

  • hmmm ok Alex ok ;) haha j y songerai haha :)

  • Je sais, mais ainsi je peux avoir le premier ticket pour la téléboutique ;)

  • J’y serai à 06:58.

  • Petite précision, la téléboutique à Esch ouvrira à 08h00 ;)

  • @ gecko 20, j’y serais à 6h59 comme ca j’aurais le mien avant lol

    Non, j’y serais aussi ;)

  • Bon les gars,

    J’ramene des grillwurschten et on fait un camping?
    Rendez-vous jeudi soir?

    Qui ramene de la moutarde du luxembourg

  • Haha gecko20, je vais encore reflechir, si je decide de venir a Esch ;) haha :P . Vous choisissez quel endroit? :P celui de Esch ou de la gare ;)

  • J’attends des nouvelles d’Orange :(

  • Voila comme Alex l’a dit auparavant, ils ne vont pas faire de choses exceptionnelle, soyez-la a l heure d ouverture, le premier arrive, c’est celui qui sera en premier servi!
    Dommage, et bonne chance a tout le monde ici, j espere bien qu on en auar tous un ;) .

  • Bon au risque d’etre fou lol je serai vendredi très tôt à Esch, la poste ouvre à 7 heures :p QUi je risque d’y rencontrer ;)

  • Just spoke with a salesman at TANGO about friday’s sepcial event.
    Eventhough I managed to get a reservation, they won’t sell it without contract.

    Any idea where & when I’ll be able to buy one at full price?

  • Bonjour

    Jétais cet aprés-midi chez tango. Eux ils vont avoir 700 Iphone dont 330 sont déjà réservés.
    Concernant les prix ils ont dit que le prix du téléphone va augmenter de 15 Euro tandis que les abonnements restent les mêmes.

  • Ils n’ouvrent pas avant!!!

    A Esch, ils ouvrent à 8 heures, autrement c’est 9 ou 10 heures!

    “…mais nous n’allons pas faire d’événement particulier autour de ce lancement, annonce Marc Rosenfeld, directeur général de LuxGSM. Ce n’est pas vraiment notre genre.”

  • Ohlalala,je te remercie pour ton appel cela m a bien arrange :) )! Alors ca veut dire que premier arriver premier,premier servi??! Ca me fout un peu les boules…est-ce qu ils vous ont aussi communique l ouverture?? Merci d avance les gaes.j irai comme peut etre demande sur place!

  • Ok je les ai appelé:

    Alors LuxGsm n’accepte pas les réservations, les premiers arrivés seront les premiers servis.

    Concernant les prix, la direction interdit formellement d’en parler. Les prix seront uniquement communiqués demain, dans la journée, sur leur site.

  • I asked today in a Luxgsmshop for the prices and they told me that they will only publish them the day before or Friday morning. They even told me they have 500 reservations, but first come first served!
    Tango said that the price will be a little bit higher than the 3GS.

  • Ok thanks a lot mich070.

    If I’m not too busy I call them later this afternoon ;)

  • Alex, I’ll try today if I’m not too busy, ok? If I get any information I will communicate it here.

  • Hello,

    Did anyone goes to the LuxGsm shop and asked them how much iPhone 4 will cost?

  • @Bobo

    I think the antenna problem its more an american problem…..there the GSM structure is not advance like here in europe….there are fewer lines and bands MHz…thats way when the Iphone switch band there is the drop of the call….
    here in europe the signal its much stronger, and the problem should be really irrelevant…Ï hope :)

  • Hi Bobo,

    I will buy it and give it a try, if I’m not satisfied I’ll trade it back in the following 30 days.

  • Hi everyone,

    What dou you think about the reception problem with the new Iphone. Should this be a reason not ti buy it?

    I already asked this question on this forum but unfortunately I didn’t get any feedbaack…

    Many thanks for your answers

  • Oui oui, je comprends bien ton point d evue et t’as raison! Y a rien a dire! Mais bon je trouve par exemple l’ayant réservé ca serait plus symple, on viendrai le chercher sans aucun stress..mais bon, je n aime pas non plus le systeme de premier arrive premier servi… :/

  • Sobre…certes…mais beaucoup plus chiant pour les clients qu un systeme de pré réservation…car poireauter 2 heures devant un magasin (lequel ? quel sera leur point de vente le mieux fourni?…)…pour RIEN….c’est encore plus frustrant que de savoir qu il faut patienter et qu’un systeme de liste de réservation…enfin c’est juste mon avis…

  • Apparu sur le ste de l’essentiel:
    Chez LuxGSM, les choses s’annoncent plus sobres. «Nous mettrons à disposition de nos clients les smartphones dès vendredi matin, mais nous n’allons pas faire d’événement particulier autour de ce lancement, annonce Marc Rosenfeld, directeur général de LuxGSM. Ce n’est pas vraiment notre genre».

  • merci smile, c sympa :) ! oh punaise fait chier xD…. alors la réservation a été faite pour rien ;) ….on sera surement informé à cause de l’heure d’ouverture………et pour faire un nouveau abonnement..enfin c’est ce que je pense

  • @Mich: non chez Luxgsm…premier arrivé…premier servi…pas de précommande….
    chez Tango: certains ont reçu par emails des numéros de résa, et seront servis vendredi matin sur base du document reçu…les autres (j’imagine sur base d’un stock limité au depart) pourront se le procurer en magasin (j’imagine aussi premier arrivé premier servis)
    chez Orange…mystère…

  • Oh lalala compliqué tout ceci :S …. Si j ai bien compris l’email de M. Celis ca veut dire que les stocks sont limités et que ceux qui l’ont réservé l’auront en premier….Est-ce que c’est bien qu’il voulait dire ou est-ce autre chose?….

  • Oh, I misunderstood sorry, I found some news on LuxGsm offers on:
    http://www.kenuvo.lu/2010/07/27/iphone-4-les-dernieres-infos/

    …”Selon des informations que j’ai reçu de la part de ma source interne chez Luxgsm, il est possible de réserver l’iPhone 4. De plus selon cette même source, ceux qui possèdent déjà un iPhone avec abonnement qui n’est pas encore terminé, devront payer par exemple pour l’abonnement à 35 €, la somme de 15€ par mois et pour ceux qui possèdent l’abonnement à 50 €, devront payer 20 € par mois jusqu’à la fin du contrat du premier abonnement. Bien entendu ces 15 ou 20 € s’ajouteront au nouvel abonnement souscrit avec l’iPhone 4. Apparemment il n’est pas possible de prolonger simplement son ancien abonnement.”…

  • @alex: luxgsm does not mention preorder is possible, because, as said by Mr Celis…it will be on a first come, first served basis!

  • Ok M. Celis Apple doesn’t give you the approval, but Tango becomes it??…. very strange

    On Luxgsm.lu, it’s no mentioned that we can preorder iPhone 4…

  • Mr Celis – the commercial director of LUXGSM got back to me with the following text:

    Hi,

    Just for your info, we’ve updated our website today to announce launch on the 30th as well, it will be on a first come, first serve basis.

    The available quantities are unfortunately very low, so we’re gonna take reservations and give the patient customers an extra something for it.

    As far as the bad com we’re getting, it’s unavoidable around such a situation, we’re nearly 100% at Apple’s mercy and have to make the best of it, we still don’t have their approval for our press release (sent out over 2 weeks ago).

    You can quote me on all of the above.

    Take care,

    David

  • @ Alex

    I hope you are right….I would like to know before friday morning what and where to buy it (tango…orange??) :)

  • I think that they’ll publish their prices only on Thursday (late afternoon), so no operator can copy their prices anymore… (last year the same situation appeared)

  • @ Smile

    Ok…you are right…but thats way I say crap marketing…
    In italy, where the phone will be out friday, like here, all the major operator have already come out with all the price list…with or without the contract….

    Seems that here we are really late :)

  • @Alex,merci..j’avais mal lu ton message…donc pour le moment, Tango reste le seul opérateur à avoir envoyé à certains clients des numéros de réservation “fermes”…c’est assez hallucinant à 3 jours du lancement…

    @Marco: yes and No…on friday morning, when I will go and take my iphone, if the guy tells me “it’s 500 euro…”…I’ll just say…”No thank you”…the reservation number doesn’t oblige me to take it… whatever, the price shouldn’t be too different from the price of the 3GS when it was launched.

  • @ Alex
    Thanks but I’m not talking about the price of the Iphone itself, I mean the contract prices….I am interested on the 2GB monthly fee (30/35??)….and until now no news….

  • @ Marco

    In the french Apple Store (online), iPhone 4 16 GB costs 629 €.

    No more information for Luxembourg yet. (but it will probably be the same)

  • Still no news on the prices???? Its incredible how they let you reserve something without knowing HOW MUCH IT WILL COST :SS

    What a crap marketing….

  • Désolé mauvais lien. Voici le bon:

    http://www.luxgsm.lu/assets/emailing/20100729/

  • @smile, non non il y n’y a aucun texte, juste une image, disant que l’iPhone 4 est dispo ce vendredi.

    http://www.luxgsm.lu/assets/emailing/20100731/00_top_email.jpg

  • Pas encore reçu non plus…est ce un email avec un numéro de réservation peronnel comme Tango l’a envoyé ?

  • je l ai pas reçu désormais :-/ …..

  • @mich070,

    oui tout à fait, suis-je le seul à l’avoir reçu??

  • Alex j ai une petite débile question….. : Comment est-ce que t’as reçu cet email? Tu t ‘etais aussi inscrit sur la page de luxgsm ou comment t as fait?

    Merci

  • @Jens: no more information in the email, only this picture:

    http://www.luxgsm.lu/assets/emailing/20100729/

    I’ve subscribed to the LuxGsm-newsletter a few days ago:

    http://www.luxgsm.lu/iphone4/

  • Thank you all so much for sharing your knowledge on the subject here with us. I really think we have some good (and up to date) information on here.

    When you all go and pick up your iphone 4, can you please check up with the provider on price (16 and 32 GB version), available subscription packages (incl. minimum duration), upgrade prices (in case you already have an iphone 3g or 3gs), contract-free iphone 4 prices and simlock status? Like that we can really get the relevant information on this post as fast as possible and help people make the best pick. I would like to get this information in order to make a good comparison, as people who got the iphone 3g when it came out have a contract that will expire very soon (yes – it is already 2 years ago). I believe people should have the ability to know what the best deal is…

    @alex: can you share the email with us here? I also asked to be notified, but they have not done so yet.

  • Je viens de revevoir un mail de LuxGsm: c’est également pour le 30 juillet.

    (apparamment ils n’ouvrent pas à minuit comme chez Tango…)

  • Bonjour,

    moi aussi je m’étais inscrit deux fois, mais la deuxième fois il était marqué sur le site de tango réservez votre Iphone maintenant tandis que les autres jours il était marqué votre Iphone arrive bientôt, soyez les premiers informés. Cette annonce elle était seulement pendant qqs. jours sur le site de Tango et si je me souviens bien c’était début juillet.

  • Pour Tango…c’est etrange, car je m’étais inscrit sur leur website avec plusieurs adresses emails (4), sur 3 d’entre elles, j’ai reçu un simple avis que l’iphone arrivait ce vendredi (en fait le message qui figure en news sur leur website)…sur ma 4eme adresse, j’ai aussi reçu cet email…et j’ai reçu en plus,juste après le premier, l’email mentionné par Gacko. Il se trouve que cette adresse email est l’adresse que j’ai donné à Tango lors de mon inscritpion quand j’ai soucrit un abonnement chez eux il y a quelques mois…

    @Gecko: es tu egalement client Tango

    si quelqu’un connait la méthode qui a été utilisée par Tango pour seletionner les “heureux” premiers acheteurs…(tirage au sort, clients prioritaires…)

  • Voila c’est que je me suis aussi dit, parce que alors ca ne donnerai pas beaucoup de sens!

    T’as absolument raison!

  • @ mich070, LuxGsm a intérêt à sortir l’iPhone 4, comme les autres opérateurs ce vendredi, autrement les clients vont partir et les mécontentments vont augmenter.

    Le seul problème et c’est là qu’ils sèment le doute, c’est que LuxGsm ne communique pas sur ce sujet.

  • Un peu confus toute cette situation :S…Pourtant LuxGsm ayant le statut de meuilleur réseaux ici au Luxembourg pourrait être a ce point plus performant que les autres :S….
    Comme annoncé auparavant, je suis allé “réserver”/”commander” mon iphone hier à la Gare. Ils m’ont bien dit qu’il sera disponible pour vendredi (ce que je crains en ce moment sincerement) et qu’ils me téléphoneraient….Ayant oubliés de me demander combien de gigas je voulais avoir, ils m ont rappeleé…Mais bon ca veut rien dire ;) .
    Ce que j éspère comme meme c’est qu il sorte pour la plupart du monde (et pour ceux qui l ont reserve) ce vendredi et pas comme Orange un limite de stock :-/…..
    Merci pour vos recherches!
    a plus

  • Le lancement de l’iPhone 4 se précise un peu, sauf chez LuxGSM, les détails sur le lancement n’ont en revanche pas encore été dévoilés, la direction étant injoignable mardi matin.

    Source:
    http://www.lessentiel.lu/news/luxembourg/story/11293693

  • Oui pour orange, je viens de recevoir un mail me disant merci de vous être inscrit sur notre site pour iPhone 4.

    Celui-ci débarque vendredi 30, nous vous invitons afin de vous permettre de pouvoir acquérir celui-ci des sa sortie……

    Il faut indiquer son numéro d’appel, si client orange ensuite son numéro et numéro de client et en cas de trop forte demande leur système tirera au sort mes heureux invités. Ils demandent aussi si l’on est possesseur d’un 3GS mais aucune info sur reprise éventuelle ni sur les prix du 4.

    J’essaierai de contacter le business helpdesk demain. Étant domicilie en Belgique il arrive aussi vendredi mais au prix allan de 649 a 799€ selon le modèle.

    Taz

  • Oui Tom^^Il n’y a pas assez de stocks….

    Je suis bien curieux comment LuxGsm va réagir:

    (Imaginé: LuxGsm): Ben nous, on le commercialise pas, comme ca on contente tout le monde….ou pas ^^

  • ORANGE:

    TIRAGE AU SORT ?!?

  • iPhone 4 will be available in Orange shops on 30th July 2010 :D

    http://www.orange.lu/maincontent.aspx?page=CONTENT&content=SUPPORT&magickey=24

    And LuxGsm???????

  • @ Weezy, je me permets de te répondre. Il aurait suffit que tu t’inscrives au programme de précommande iPhone 4 de Tango, il y a quelques jours. Dès lors, tu aurais reçus ce mail ;)

  • Gacko, comment tu as eu un numéro de réservation? How did you get this reservation number?

  • I got this message from tango:

    Le 30 juillet, votre iPhone 4
    débarque chez Tango.

    Cher membre de la communauté iPhone,
    Vous avez récemment réservé votre iPhone 4 via notre site Internet tango.lu et souhaitez bénéficier des offres iPhone Tango au meilleur prix.
    Le jour tant attendu approchant, je tiens à vous communiquer quelques détails importants afin que vous soyez parmi les premiers à obtenir votre iPhone 4.

    Afin de vous garantir le meilleur service, un seul point de vente exclusif TANGO a été sélectionné pour organiser au mieux la remise du nouvel iPhone 4
    Le rendez-vous est pris
    le vendredi 30 juillet 2010 de 7H00 à 9H00
    177, rue de Luxembourg à Bertrange
    Votre numéro de réservation unique et personnel :XXXXXXXXX

    Merci de vous munir de cet e-mail imprimé, ainsi que des pièces suivantes nécessaires à la souscription de votre abonnement Tango :
    • Votre carte d’identité
    • Vos coordonnées bancaires
    • Pour les particuliers : un justificatif de salaire de moins d’un mois
    • Pour les entreprises : une copie des statuts de la société

    Attention : Votre réservation est garantie jusqu’à 9H00 le 30 juillet. Si vous ne pouvez vous déplacer à cette date, je tiens à vous rassurer, nous recevrons de façon régulière et tout au long de l’été des iPhone 4 pour vous permettre de profiter de ce nouveau smartphone.

    Merci de votre intérêt et à très vite !

    Luis Camara
    Directeur Marketing et Commercial

  • Hey guys….this story sucks…..nobody knows a sure information it is very complicated! only tango has confirmed it yet…. grrr :S . I went now, at 4 pm at LuxGsm store (Teleboutique, Gare) and they told me that the Iphone would be available this Friday and they would phone me! But that sucks, cause in one store they tell you one information and in the other you got an other answer! But if they don’t start selling their Iphones this Friday it will be strange, cause their concurrents will sell them sooner than LuxGsm……
    Hmm, I’ll hope that it comes this Friday for everybody haha :D .

  • @ gecko20, a friend goes to the LuxGsm schop today and they said him, the iPhone will be available next week only ^^ (I can’t believe it, have they no information or aren’t they organized enough?)

  • @ Tom
    Hehe, I’m thinking the same, I was at a Luxgsm store this morning and they could’nt tell anything… as told before the marketing of Orange, Luxgsm an Tango is crap

  • 4 days to go until the release of the new iPhone 4 and still no information about the prices and everything ?!? GREAT!

  • @ Weezy,

    the black iPhone 4 will be available on the 30th July (only Tango has confirmed it yet) and the white iPhone 4 will be available only later this year (Apple has some problems with the white colour and the glass).

    LuxGsm isn’t enough informed…

  • Hi there, I just went today to luxgsm and I asked them about the white iPhone since Apple just informed us that it will come out later this year and not end of July like they said at the conference (source -> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/07/23iphonestatement.html).
    The guys at luxgsm said that there wouldn’t be any problem for the 16gb but more difficult to get a 32 white… So I prordered a 16gb white although I’m not sure getting it.

  • In Germany there was a possibility

  • @ Tom, @ gecko20,

    No communication on this topic yet, but I know that some operators proposed it in France.

  • Yes, or to extend your contract I think?

  • What does this mean?
    Will there be an Upgrade possibility for owners of an iPhonee 3G / 3GS ?

    For example:
    My contract is running through October 2010, will there be a possibility to cancel this contract and buy a new iPhone 4 with a new contract?
    Thanks for information

  • @ geck20, last year it was 5 %:

    “Les abonnés iPhone existants (forfaits iPhone et abonnement Relax avec option iPhone) peuvent acquérir le nouvel iPhone 3GS
    sans abonnement dans la limite d’un iPhone 3GS par abonnement iPhone (forfaits iPhone et abonnement Relax avec option iPhone).
    Le prix de l’iPhone 3GS est alors le prix de vente TTC sur lequel 5% de remise sont accordés, soit 489 € TTC
    pour l’iPhone 3GS 16 GB et 575 € TTC pour l’iPhone 3GS 32 GB.”

  • Spoke to my contact at Luxgsm and he told me they would only have 50 iPhones for all of Lux on the launch

  • I was at the Luxgsm store and they told me that for people with an Ipgone 3g or 3Gs with a contract with Luxgsm there will be special prices ??? We will see

  • That’s great, I hope that iPhone 4 will be also available on 30th July in the LuxGsm shops :)

  • @Gacko: thanks a lot for this information. I have updated the post.

  • @ Alex
    Ok thank you , I didn’t know that, it’s an explication but no excuse! Yes I hope too, that it will be there for the 30th of July, I will go on vacation for the 6th August ;)

  • * the day

  • @geck20

    Last year, the same situation appeared.

    Our three operators will only publish a note, the date before launching iPhone 4.

    I hope it’ll be the 30th July

  • Hello
    I find it not mormal that 10 days before the new Iphone comes to Luxemburg no operator can inform us about the prices??? I can’t understand this fact… The communications and the informations given by the operators are ****. I hope that in the future the marketing we bill much better and more friendly to us, the consumers.

  • @Rizz, please google before you post (or even look a bit higher in the posts, I don’t think @marco left any confusion as to who announced the date). @Alex and @marco clearly knows what is happing in Apple. You, on the other have made a comment which will confuse those who are not in the know. Given the extensive international press coverage of the Apple press conference and the previous posts, your post is as ill-informed as can be.

  • @Alex: there is in fact no officiel release date, yet. the only thing we know for sure is that it will come out the first week of august (saying that 30th july is in fact the friday of that “first week of august”)
    i think only lessentiel wrote something about the 30th july
    i do hope that it will come out this early but i don’t won’t to rely on it because i don’t like bad surprises ;)

  • Hello,

    I went to the téléboutique Cloche d’or today and I asked them when they’ll get the new iPhone 4.

    They said to me in the first week of august!!

    I think that they aren’t informed of the new release date (30th July)

  • 11:25AM Q: Will the bumper offer extend outside of the US?
    A: Yes.
    Q: And beyond September 30th?
    A: We’ll evaluate.

  • Yes it’s the 30 july: http://www.kenuvo.lu/2010/07/16/iphone-4-la-solution-dapple-pour-lantenne/

    And we will get a bumper for free

  • On the press Conference Regarding Iphone 4, Steve Jobs said that the Iphone 4 will come to 17 countries (including Lux) the 30 JULY

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/live-from-apples-iphone-4-press-conference/?sort=newest&refresh=60

  • iPhone 4 will be available on the 30th July.

  • @Rizz
    Please let me know when your ‘try’ was successful. I think, I’ll do the same ;-)

  • @claude i dont think that it is impossible. probably the staff didnt knew that they werent allowed to take preorders. i think ill give it a try ;)

  • @Rizz
    I had the same answer at the Luxgsm helpline. The girl said me that reservations for the iPhone 4 are not possible. When I read here, that reservations are possible in Luxgsm stores, I ask me, what to believe?

  • Hi everyone!
    I’ve been following this blog like many of you and I can tell you that I’m also excited about this jewel (already sold my 3GS xD ). I just hope that we won’t be affected by this antenna issue like many others…
    Don’t miss the apple press conference tomorrow at 7pm. They will be talking about the antenna problem that the iphone 4 is suffering since his launch. (rumors are saying that the new one’s are already fixed)

  • I have updated the post with the links to the operator’s websites where they allow ‘pre-bookings’ and ‘availability notifications’. I try and keep this blog as neutral as possible, but I can’t keep myself from saying how unbelievably poor all three carriers are at communicating with their current and potential customers. If they don’t know when they get the iPhone 4 and at what conditions, why just not be honest and say so rather than communicating all kinds of non-sense. I will keep my eyes and ears open and keep this post updated with as many facts as possible…

  • I just reserved my phone at a Luxgsm store and i wasn’t the only one! The staff told me that these reservations are ok, the only problem is that they could not tell me the price of the 32 gb … we will see

  • i just phone luxgsm helpline to ask if i could also reserve via phone. and he was convienced that you could not reserve at all because of insufficient information. i told him i’d know people that were able to reserve in the shop and he said “jo ehm…thats impossible”. i guess the staff at the shop doesnt know what they can(not) do. so he told me i could give it a try in shop but warned that i’d probably won’t be able to reserve.
    furtermore he could confirm that the phone was available the first week of august but he couldnt specify the date
    he just told me to suscribe on their page in order to be informed

  • Apple prepares a special keynote about the iphone 4 and the reception problems on friday 19h00.

  • Trusting what @johan said more than the LUXGSM service, I went to the kirchberg shop and they said I could reserve it, so I did. Many thanks for the heads up Johan!!!

  • @johan: damn you lucker :D congratz ;)
    @chriss: thanks for that information, didn’t notice :O

  • See the info I called LuxGSM and they said you could not prebook, but you could add your name to the list to get informed. You can also do this at the following Web address http://www.luxgsm.lu/iphone4 (which I used so I know it works)

  • Apperently.
    Couldn´t find any information on the site neither. Prebooking in the store was no problem….
    They still do not have the final price.

  • @ Johan Huuhh?

    Can we preorder the Iphone 4 yet? No message on the LuxGsm website.
    The communication is truly bad between LuxGsm and their customers….

  • I went to Luxgsm today and prebooked two iPhone 4. According to the woman in the Luxgsm shop (route de Strassbourg) they will be coming in the first week of August. To be delivered before end of that week.

  • @Alex I know – and it is very strange behavior from all three operators. I have a feeling that they don’t know themselves.
    @Pat I am very interested in knowing where they get their information from…as mentioned just above – all three senior managers were very quick at saying that they will get the iPhone 4, but the information has stopped there. That makes me think that they don’t know themselves. This is of course an assumption and not a fact.

  • Hello everyone,
    the next release date I saw was on L’essentiel this morning. They wrote that the Iphone comes July 28th.

    Greetz

  • Hello,

    I understand that our three mobile operators don’t deliver us informations three month earlier.
    But in 2 weeks now, Iphone 4 will be available in Luxembourg and no one reveals their prices, conditions, etc.

    Why is it so? Do you think, that they are under pressure from Apple?

    Thanks ;)

  • we need to thank you for making so much effort and keeping us up-to-date ;)

  • As you all know, there are many rumors flying around and it looks like the staff at the carriers are saying one thing one day and another thing another day. The information is simply not consistent. As a result, I keep staying in touch with the marketing directors at the carriers to make sure we only have correct information on here. So far, they all don’t want to give exact dates, prices, conditions etc concerning their launch of the iPhone 4 in Luxembourg. I have asked them to join the conversation here, but they are not very keen on it. I guess we just have to wait…
    Finally, I would like to thank all of you for being so active on this blog post by commenting and ‘liking’ the post via the facebook like button. It means a lot to me to see that people appreciate my work.

  • @ANDY: Yes, thats what they told me, I realize too that this day is a sunday, I don’t realy know about this, like I said before, I just post what they told me, and I want you all to know about it too :)

    @MARCO: yes, the prices as shown on my post are more or less the same as for a 3GS, like the carriers have already confirmed about these prices 2 monts ago, they said the prices would be the same as for 3GS, so yeah… :)

  • For your info it’s possible now to order your Iphone4 with luxgsm in there store.
    I did it Saturday.
    But no more info about price and delivery date. (About end of July)
    br
    Marco

  • @ Pat > The prices: 16 GB Black with contract (SMS/MMS unlimited, 3G unlimited DATA, calls etc) 169 EURO and 50 EURO per month! 32 GB Black with contract (same as other) 269 EURO and 50 EURO per month too!

    This are more or less the prices for the UNLIMITED DATA contract for the 3GS… I Hope there will be a less expensive contract with the 2GB data option (30/35 Euro??)

  • pat,

    are you sure about the 25th? It’s sunday. Do Luxgsm, orange or tango open the stores especially for a phone? Can you confirm this?

    Thanks

  • Hello everyone,
    So I have some good…and bad news! I had some chats with friends, working for orange and tango and my cousin who works wor PT. The good news is that the iphone will be available July 25th (this release date is given away by a friend, so I don’t give any garantee if it is not so!) The prices: 16 GB Black with contract (SMS/MMS unlimited, 3G unlimited DATA, calls etc) 169 EURO and 50 EURO per month! 32 GB Black with contract (same as other) 269 EURO and 50 EURO per month too! All these informations are without garantee! The Bad news: As I said, these informations are not officially, if you may look on the apple.com page, the release was focused on JULY 2010. The prices without a contract are incredible high! You may have a 16 GB Iphone 4 for 600-700 Euro, without any possibility of having 3G, calls or sms! If you want to, you need to cut your normal Sim Card so, that it fits into the new Iphone! The Iphone 4 needs Micro-Sim, so your old card wont fit into it!

    BUT!!! I found a way to get an Iphone 4 for 400 Euros, coming from USA, the only problem is that its locked! The only way to unlock is with a mac…and it doesn’t say that it works 100 percent fine too.
    We gotta wait until July 25th, and buy 169 Euro, we have 2 years of warranty and a phone that works!

    You are the jufge! You want an Iphone, nomatter what it costs? EBAY… You’ll find what you seek.

    Greetz

  • i visit this page now daily because i am so looking forward to knowing when i will finally be holding my own iPhone4 in the hands. yesterday at trier i tested one of the guy working at the phone house shop. i can tell you that it is even better then people describe it :D especially how the display feels and looks like and also the video quality and just the responsiveness of the whole device, you really gotta try it out in order to believe it. okay i think now i sound too fanboyish :p anyways iPhone4 is definitely awesome ;D

  • The iphone comes by Luxgsm the 31 july, I read it here: http://www.kenuvo.lu/2010/07/09/liphone-4g-le-31-juillet-chez-luxgsm/

  • What do you think about the problem that the new iphone 4 loses reception when you hold it by the antenna band? Should this be an argument to wait until Apple fixes the problem to buy it?

  • There are so many dates and rumors flying around concerning the launch dates for all three carriers. I have asked the senior managers of luxgsm, tango and orange (again) to clarify for us in order to avoid wrong information floating around. We’ll see if they decide to communicate…

  • I went to a Tango shop and was informed that they will also have it at the same time as other operators!! Great news :)

    I’ve subscribed their online info feed.

  • In l’essentiel today it says that LUXGSM will be the first network to get the Iphone before the end of July.

  • I can’t wait to get my hands on it. As I’m leaving for vacation the 29th, I really hope LUXGSM gets them before the 29th.

  • @lg: Well, I had a chat with a friend working in a Tango Store, but he couldn’t answer me buy asking him about this preorders…So I went to the store and talked to them, no Informations :(

    The only thing I said is, that I preordered mine, so I hope I’ll get it too! looool

    Greetz

  • @Pat: Yeah, they changed the banner…I was pretty surprised too. It sounded like it wasn’t supposed to be there so soon or…they’ve got too much pre-orders and took it down.

    Either way I’m waiting for news from you ;-) Thanks :-)

  • Thanks gents, I think I’ll go for the fruit… I am the first person to say “if you have no clue about technical stuff, buy IMac” when I’m asked. Working in the IT world (on a PC, pffffffffff), I have my Mac at home, it’s amazingly easy to use and website-dev is just fun, no hassle. Would have preferred a 8 or 12 MP camera instead of 5, but anyway, I own good cameras already, I am just not carrying them around with me. 32 GB will be necessary anyway.

    By the way, one reason for me to own an iPhone was that it could replace my old TomTom. A quick control on the TomTom and Apple site showed the following: TomTom XL Europe version available for 139 euro, everything being included, machine, software, holder… TomTom version for iPhone 69 euro, sounds great deal, BUT makes no sense without the car kit (holder, power connector…) which is sold separately for nice 99 euro! At the end it absolutely makes no sense to buy the iPhone version, unless you are the kind of person who is unable to read a street map by walking around in a bigger city (the car TomTom is a little big to be carried around).

    As soon as the iPhone is out, I will go for a trial and hope that the basic Orange monthly fee will be enough (it’s a shame that they do not manage to include the bigger region in one price scheme, we are not living in a big country, where borders are far away. I will have to cut the internet connections when I move around in Germany (I live on the German borderside, still getting the Lux-signal, but as soon as I move a few km inwards…). Keep you posted!

  • @Jens: Thanks for that help, but I don’t know if I realy would take that step :) between I have a TwinCard :) But when I will, I’ll let you know, thanks anyway.

    @Nathalie: I had several Phone in my hand running Android, like the HTC Google Phone, pretty good, but way tooo complicated, like you are searching something in usability, easy enough, I think the point goes to the IPhone. I think that the Iphone4 has 2 cameras, one on the front, for video calls, video chats etc, and one on the back that takes pictures with 5 MegaPixels and has Autozoom too. (apple.com) Calendar, Notes are very easy to use, like on the 3G or 3GS. And the music, I think Iphone with its 16 or 32 GB versions, you can listen to a whole bunch of your favorite music and much much more too… So you’re the judge! :)

    @lg: hmmm serious? I did mine there too, 3 days ago. I will have a chat with a friend there and leave the infos here as soon as possible!

  • Funny enough, Tango had preorders available for a brief moment on their website… I did mine there.
    Now they changed the banner back to the old one again…
    So are the preorders valid or were they just testing the system ?

  • I am still in touch with the senior staff at all three carriers, and they all still don’t want to give me any dates and/or further updates. As a result, I will not update this post with data that is not officially confirmed. End of July sure sounds good though ;)

    @Pat: You can cut the simcard yourself without having to order the micro-sim from your carrier – there are great tutorials all over the net for it. Alternatively, you can just get a converter from sites like cutmysim.com – Let me know if you need the link.

    @Nathalie: I don’t know about the picture quality of any of the phones you mention (including iPhone 4 unfortunately), but apple have released pictures that are taken with an iPhone 4 on their website and it looks pretty good I think. You can see it here: http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/camera.html – just scroll to the bottom. When you have chosen a phone, let us know on here and show us the outcome :)

  • Well, I am waiting for the phone too, as my GSM charger suddenly “died” (RIP). Luckily my old Sony Ericsson still works. Am a little torn between the IPhone 4 (am a Macbook user so would make sense) and an Android smartphone with a good camera and sound (e.g. Samsung Galaxy). I will not use it a lot for surfing, more for downloading my mails by wifi, following up meetings/calendar items and contacts, listening to music and mainly for phone calls of course. Cam quality is very important, as I am a hobby photographer. As you guys sound like being very experienced, would you recommand waiting for the iPhone or could I go for anything else (proposals?). I want something that works and do not need to make a statement by owning a special phone. More important is the quality of the sound and cam and usability…

    Many thanks for your suggestions and Danke Jens for your nice information work, I really appreciate

  • Hello !! Today I called Tango and they told me that the Iphone 4 will be available on july 25th… :)

  • Hello Jens,
    So I found several ways to get hands on the IPhone4… BUT! It ain’t realy the big deal, saying so, it might cost you more than a few hundred Euros, having the IPhone 4 without Simlock, working with all Carriers. But, the real joke is, that this Iphone4 has not the standard Sim-Cards as we use and know having in our current phones, but there we have to get hands on those freaking Mini-Smarts, same as they are on a Ipad! So… you might have to cut your old SIM Card so, that it fits in that phone…or you need a contract of your carrier, doing so, you payed XXXEuros for NOTHING! Waiting for it comes out here will at least not hurt your pocket TOO much! I had a chat with a friend, who works for Orange Luxembourg, he told me that the new Iphone 4 will be available end of JULY, the price is approx. the same as they sold the 3GS. So you are the judge! The Iphone 4 comes in 2 colors (black and white) and there are 2 different models too, the 16 GB and the 32 GB version. Apple is selling the 16 GB with a contract for 199 US Dollars, which are approx. 169 Euros. The white Edition ain’t available for now. Well thats all for now, hope I could help you guys a little. CYA
    Greets

  • Hi pat, thanks for your comment. I think many people share your ‘problem’. To be honest, I have a feeling that the carriers themselves don’t know much about the launch of the iPhone 4. If they would, they would already be marketing it way more aggressively. I guess the best option is to wait for the carriers to officially launch the iPhone 4 and then see what they say. Please keep us posted on what happens :)

  • Hi,
    So I got an Iphone3G and a 3GS, renewed contract on Orange few months ago, before I knew the 4th Generation comes out! So I went to Orange, just to make some things clear: I asked if I could replace my contract give them back the 3GS (which is indeed in good condition) and to overwrite that contract to a 2 year plan for a Iphone 4! There were 2 Sellers in that store so I asked this woman first, her answer was: Iphone4? This does not exist! Where you heared that from?
    …I was shocked…but okay there is the guy too, so I asked him. His answer was: Yeah, there will be the Iphone 4, but I can’t overwrite your contract, just incase you would pay back the whole amount of your current contract!
    So they realy wanted me to pay over 600 Euros to them to pay back that contract in order to renew my contract for I don’t know aprox 200 Euros just to get my Iphone 4???
    What the bleep do they think they are? So I said to them that I would keep my 3GS as it is, and contact them if I would pay back the old contract! Actualy I never did…But what am I suppose to do now? Ok the 3GS is one good phone, but I still want the 4! And I wont pay a thousands of Euros just to have a smartphone in my pocket (again lol). What you guys think? Should I repay a contract or do I realy need to wait until this contract is over to get my Iphone? Aren’t there any other possibilties to get one? Of course, not for roll of a million dollar in cash, but a respectable price too :)
    thank you!

  • Sure thing Sander :)

  • Wow, nice info!! Thanks very much for putting this online :-) I’m so looking forward to getting my iPhone 4!! :-) Please continu to keep us updated!

  • I know that luxgsm did upgrades. It was something like 500eur for the 32GB model.

  • Strange information managment at LuxGSM indeed!

    I contacted Luxgsm by mail and they phoned me back 5 minutes later, which is truly awesome! Unfortunately they don’t know anything more than that they gonna sell it. I asked when they’ll start selling it and I got a “jo ehm.. we will put it on our website and there will be ads about it.” somewhen.

  • What about an upgrade possibility like in Germany?
    When the iPhone 3GS was released in Luxembourg, was there an Upgrade possibility or not?
    Thanks for an answer

  • Thank you so much for collection these information.
    I tried to contact Luxgsm, too but the guy of the helpcenter didn’t even knew that the iPhone 4 had been announced. I asked when they would have more information, he just responded “well errr…, i think we will see some commercials on the buses, that will inform us.”

  • Do you know if the iPhone will be sold unlocken & without plan in Luxemburg?

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